Subject	Good suggestion! Here it is:
Posted by	Ash's Z on July 26, 2006 at 11:16 AM
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In Reply To	No Worries.....It might be helpful if you could post a chart posted by Greg D. (Specialty-Z) on July 26, 2006 at 10:39 AM
Message	RED: GT2860RS w/ .86 A/R turbine, 9-blade, Stillen IC/OEM Pipe (Seb) BLUE: GT2860RS w/ .64 A/R turbine, 9-blade, Stillen IC/OEM Pipe (Dee) GREEN: GT2860RS w/ 10-blade turbine & .63 A/R housing, MASSIVE SMIC/2.5" Pipe (Ash) SAE Horsepower SAE Torque Not as much of a difference, but it is still there. The differences between the setups: Seb has larger valves (Dee has OEM) Seb has 500 cams (Dee had 400's) Dee's car had a cluster of an exhaust: 3.0" DP, 3.0" TP with gutted cat sections, and a 2.5" cat-back. I'm not sure how much better this flows as compared to Seb's all 2.5" exhaust or if there would be any appreciable difference. As for the crank in my car, I'm not sure how much of a difference it is making - I would be more inclined to say that the spoolup characteristics have a lot more to do with the breather mods and components in the turbo's hot section. It would be nice to see a dyno comparison of a car swapping out only the flywheel from an OEM to the RPS so we could get a better idea of how changes in rotating mass really affect spoolup. My presumption: it has less effect than changes in turbine housing and turbine selection does. I know it isn't hurting spoolup but neither of us really know the level of contribution until some sort of testing is done.. Any chance you have dyno comparisons of before/after a billet flywheel install? [ ashspecz.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Seb's car vs Dee's car (CAN OF WORMS!) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 09:21:41 07/26/06 Cliffs: "Dee has 3" parts." - Kenny 09:26:26 07/26/06 Thanks for taking the time to give us some feedback, Greg. - Ash's Z 09:42:14 07/26/06 No Worries.....It might be helpful if you could post a chart - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 10:39:37 07/26/06 Good suggestion! Here it is: - Ash's Z 11:16:40 07/26/06 Thanks for posting that........... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 15:02:18 07/26/06 Looking forward to seeing the results of your creations. - Ash's Z 17:22:50 07/26/06 agreed - aliaZ 10:07:02 07/26/06 I couldn't agree with you more. - Ash's Z 10:17:24 07/26/06 But it's not about "7 PSI" - bankruptedz 10:37:05 07/26/06 Re: But it's not about "7 PSI" - Ash's Z 10:50:33 07/26/06 No but you are/will be trying to sell stuff - bankruptedz 13:07:49 07/26/06 I do run a business that specializes in Z32 aftermarket - Ash's Z 13:41:27 07/26/06 You must have missed the point - bankruptedz 13:52:31 07/26/06 So you dont like how I have put it out there. - Ash's Z 14:07:47 07/26/06 I guess were both confused - bankruptedz 14:05:25 07/26/06 This may help >> - Ash's Z 14:10:07 07/26/06 no no...Ash i get it my friend - bankruptedz 14:11:50 07/26/06 also... - aliaZ 10:41:31 07/26/06 Yes, it likely is making a difference. - Ash's Z 10:56:57 07/26/06 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 11:16:58 07/26/06 pics of modified stillen outlets - aliaZ 10:33:24 07/26/06 Good to know - I posted a dyno comparison of Dee's setup - Ash's Z 11:21:54 07/26/06 An interesting test you can run NOW off the dyno - bankruptedz 10:15:08 07/26/06 We did that on Dee's car. The Stillen ICs had a ~3psi - Ash's Z 10:20:52 07/26/06 ah...right - bankruptedz 10:30:53 07/26/06 How do you suggest he determine the VE of the engine - Ash's Z 10:58:15 07/26/06 what is VE short for? (n/m) - moxie 11:38:04 07/26/06 volumetric efficientcy - ZJeweler 11:50:04 07/26/06 heh, efficiency... - Scotts94z32 12:43:40 07/26/06 Thanks, I think I'll do that...... (n/m) - ZJeweler 16:53:26 07/26/06 Me don't know - bankruptedz 12:41:05 07/26/06 I'm confused by why you would say that it is all about - Ash's Z 14:31:32 07/26/06 Re: I'm confused by why you would say that it is all about - bankruptedz 12:08:12 07/27/06 Agreed. :) - Ash's Z 13:17:48 07/27/06 Question - if you read this - bankruptedz 20:58:34 07/27/06 I am using the OEM 4-bolt .63 A/R turbine housings - Ash's Z 10:15:24 07/28/06 I say take both to the dragstrip and show me the MPH. :-) (n/m) - Arnel 12:06:39 07/26/06 There you go :) (n/m) - Piranha(Omaha) 12:22:56 07/26/06 That's what i say.... (n/m) - bankruptedz 12:37:23 07/26/06 As if that would minimize variables... ;-) - Ash's Z 13:10:57 07/26/06 Thats what iam talking about. but unlikely (n/m) - MikeVar82 15:52:08 07/26/06 Let's also not forget that I am running solid - Seb (specialty-Z) 12:15:58 07/26/06 Why the switch then? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:29:28 07/26/06 Well, having HD Valve Springs detoriorates - Seb (specialty-Z) 12:47:40 07/26/06 That would explain why my gears leaked worse - BigTDogg (MA) 12:52:49 07/26/06 He's talking about the valve springs, not the VTC springs. (n/m) - Dave N 13:02:43 07/26/06 So the valve springs affect the VTC intake cams? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:13:30 07/26/06 Physics 101. More force is required to act against the - Dave N 13:36:18 07/26/06 Makes sense, but I guess I should have phrased my - BigTDogg (MA) 13:49:31 07/26/06 It should be noted that I didn't point and laugh in my reply - Dave N 14:25:50 07/26/06 I know when you're pointing and laughing, no worries :) (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:07:44 07/26/06 No, the upgrade for the VTC springs is supposed to HELP, - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 15:02:51 07/26/06 There are a number of differences between the three - Ash's Z 13:07:53 07/26/06 sig check - aliaZ 13:52:36 07/26/06 seriously (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 15:06:15 07/26/06 sirusly (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:08:06 07/26/06 I'm lost. - Ash's Z 17:17:24 07/26/06 I took it to mean it gets frustrating talking to a wall - Joe(NoVA) 10:36:51 07/27/06 well - aliaZ 12:15:33 07/27/06 Consider that we both understand what is going on here, - Ash's Z 12:50:56 07/27/06 "Mental masterbation?"....No! - I-xclr8 21:01:20 07/26/06 And even if we did it one variable at a time, you would have - Ash's Z 11:09:54 07/27/06
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